Posts Tagged ‘trading losses’

Trading Lesson: How to Handle Trading Losses

Saturday, February 18th, 2012

Thursday and Friday, February 16th and 17th I saw two day’s of small losses, -2 points and -1 point.  I was just not in sync and it shows. Two small losses are better than large stop out days, of which is 4 S&P points per session max. If I am making poor decisions it is best to let the day go and wait it out. That is what I did and for that I am content. I can make that up this coming week if the market gives me an opportunity. I should not hunt for trades but need to remember to let them come to me. That is good advise for everyone as well.

When the market is acting well, that is the time to either trade a little heaver and or trade for additional points. It is a lot easier to make up any daily goal shortfall on a session that you are seeing things as they are and not as you want them to be.

This is a good lesson for me and for those working through their own trading method. I am happy with the fact that I did not overly try and get even or go ahead when it was not the time to do it. On Thursdays session, I had my chance with the last trade entry as it was a very good runner for 5-6 points. I was it at the right timing but somehow I talked myself out of the trade and even then went short when the method said not to do either one.

That is a clear sign that “I am the problem” and trying to trade through that, can do more damage. The best thing a trader can do it let it go and close it up, which I did. That is a victory in itself and I see it as such. Being down only 2 small points and not doing any additional damage is a very good thing. Losses happen to everyone, but its what you do with those losses and how you handle it.

Some traders can not handle loosing trades and loosing days, but we better learn to accept it. If we put our self worth as a trader into every trade and or every trading session, you will create a barrier for yourself that is almost impossible to overcome. For many, this is all they might need to do in order to adjust themselves towards profitability.

So much of this is tied to the mental aspect of trading and often overlooked, which is the reason why I bring it up. Dealing with losses is a difficult matter, but it need not be. The blockage comes from your own expectations of what you feel you should have gotten but did not. Thus, a let down and negative self worth as a trader can easily creep in.

If you don’t allow yourself to tie your performance in any one session to the big picture performance, than it is just a small loss that can be make up in another session or just kick it out and keep moving forward. This is one of the hardest things for traders to do, because they will get all to consumed with the fact that they make to many mistakes and thus create more mistakes.

That which you hate the most is what you invariably and overwhelmingly drawn to. Think about that for a moment….

It can very easily become a self fulfilling prophesy, as traders make the same mistakes over and over again. Why is that so?  Another good question and worth a moment of pause to reflect within.

The decision is often up to you, believe it or not. If you know how to trade and have an OK method to follow, many times it is just the negative self image a trader hold deep down within himself that he is not even aware of, that subconsciously pushes himself towards a self sabotage mentality.

I know many know exactly what I am talking about because it has happened to most traders across the board sometime in there trading career.

These things can be overcome but a strong will and determination to first address it and then take action as described is a start to turn things around. I tell you this because its true, even though it may hurt. Often, the truth does hurt, but when you embrace it, rather than run from it, you are taking the steps towards recovery and establishing a solid foundation.

That is one of the best ways I can describe it. Building a trading foundation that looks within just as much as the outward expression that is tied to your actions of pulling the trigger. You need both to be successful. Having one without the other will eventually express itself towards the least common denominator and that is towards ones weaknesses. The market is always looking for personal cracks in your trading armor. Seeing and exploiting your weaknesses where ever they may be. A lack of patients is very common and one that gets many traders over and over again.

Premature entries draws on fear of lost opportunities and causes entry before its time and so on. I could talk for days on all of this, because I to have lived it. Its learning how to deal with it and stay in control at all times and again this is found within.

I write this for myself just as much as I write this for those who follow me. This is my way also to remind myself of the many truths I have learned and a nice way for me to express it and help a few others with similar issues along the way.

With that in mind, I hope it has helped. I will post my trades below for the last two sessions and look forward to a better week.  Trade well, trade committed!  Vince

Friday’s Trades:

Thursday’s Trades:

Controlling Day Trading Losses !

Tuesday, December 1st, 2009

Today is Monday, November 30th and the market has stabilized from last weeks Dubia scare.

The amount of money at risk in Dubia was 80 billion or so and the credit markets in Europe is where the majority of funds are from. In the big scope of things, it is really not that much money when compared to the U.S markets but the fear is that the default risk will spread to other nations.

As far as the technical picture is concerned, I mentioned last week that the S&P index needed to stay above the 1085 level on a closing basis and so far it has. Support has come in in-fact exactly at those levels and we saw a continued retracement up from Friday’s sell-off.

In the daily and weekly charts, we are coming off the brick wall that has been established above. The short-term momentum in the 120 minute cash S&P chart is down, even though the retracement rally up has been impressive.

 If the S&P futures break 1090 tomorrow, that should trigger some instant selling. We will see  heavy resistance around 1100. The lines in the sand have again been drawn.

Last week I wrote about the bearish sentiment being so light, only 17%. Typically that is a strong indication that things may turn down as far as history is concerned. The other side of the equation that I did not mention was the bullish sentiment, which stands at a little over 50%. Typically a percentage of 55% or greater is considered a strong warning sign that a drop may be coming. We are close, but not really there yet. What is it going to take to get the last hold out in the bullish camp to bit?  Could it be a rally back up yet again, I really don’t know, but time will tell.

I don’t want to get to caught up in catching the top, it can be a distraction if I let it, so I am going to just let the price tell us what it wants to do.

There are plenty of opportunities throughout the day to catch a few points out of all this movement, that is the main objective in what we do. I don’t have to be right all the time about exact turning points on the daily charts, but if I get a few short-term momentum plays, what more could I ask for.

With that being said here are my trades for today; (these are in ticks) +4 +2 / +4 +6 / flat / + 2 / +2 +3 / flat  / -1  / .

It was OK, since I came in at the slow time of day and had already missed all the big swings. I got more than I really needed and can not complain. Two points is my minimum daily target but I do prefer 3 or 4. If I get a daily stop out -4 points total on the day, it helps to ensure me that I will still be on track for the week.

I have as part of my rules and trading method a daily stop out point for the day. If I go minus 4 S&P points in any one day I stop trading. That may come in many trades, 4 one point losses, or 2 one point losses and 4 half point losses, but what ever the combination, if I go – 4 points for the day, I hang it up.

Controlling your losses is just as important as capturing your gains, but not many people think of it that way. I will tell you now, unless you look at it exactly that way, you will eventually loose it.

In your quest for success, traders to often only look to the prize, but there are dangers out there and the biggest danger lurking in the dark is “YOU”. Unless you get a handle on controlling your losses, you wont make it.

What good would it do if you take one step forward and two steps back. If you do not have the discipline to control yourself and your trading funds, just take a long break until you are sure you can. Many times it may be one step forward and 5 steps back and that is the problem. You just can’t let yourself go that far back. You can always make it up another day if it is manageable.

If you are off big, for what ever reason, don’t try and make it up all at once. The ego of many traders is what will cause them to do just that. Don’t let that be you. Be humble and respect the markets. Overconfidence is and can be a killer as well. If you are having an off day and struggling, just stop. In fact you don’t have to wait until you go minus 4 points. If you are +2 points then -2 points and going back and forth, there is no shame in saying, you are off and will do better tomorrow.

The idea is don’t take big losses. That is why sometimes I take break even trades and small losses of only 1 or 2 ticks. I really don’t like to take a full point loss if I don’t have to. I know many traders would love to be able to do that and they can, but you have to know how.

Trading comprises many components. The one most people only see is, making points of profit and that is most certainly a key component. You will never get to where you want to go with making profit. The second thing is keeping it and if you have to give it up, give up as little as possible. The third is, don’t let yourself beat you. We are our own worst enemy.

You need a plan for all three of these if you are going to succeed as a trader in the long run. It just so happens that I teach and cover all of these area’s in detail, giving the ambitious trader the advantages he or she needs. It really is up to you, now what will you do?

http://www.screencast.com/t/YmU2N2ZmMzA      Todays turning points and my trades